March 13, 2010, 12:22:32 PM
bigger smaller reset 800px Wide width Full width Reset * *

Right To Vape

 
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?


Login with username, password and session length

Recent Topics.
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. « previous next »
Pages: [1] Go Down Print
Author Topic: Connecticut - Attorney General Demands Vendor Cease Sales  (Read 514 times)
JustJulie
Volunteer Coordinator
Volunteer
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 959



View Profile
« on: December 12, 2009, 12:03:12 PM »

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/choicevapor/54758-70-liquidation-choicevapor-cease-operations.html

In pertinent part:

Quote
We regret to inform you that ChoiceVapor.com will cease operations on December 31st 2009.

This has been an agonizing decision for us and one we have not come to easily. We recently received a letter from a State Attorney General that demanded a cease of sales. This letter which cites inaccurate statements from the highly contested July FDA press release has tested our resolve and hastened our decision. It is this action, pending FDA litigation and the countless fights still to come that leaves us with an unacceptable amount of uncertainty for the long term success and prosperity of our endeavor. What is the future of the electronic cigarette industry? Your guess is as good as ours. Our sincere hope is that Federal and State governments will one day embrace this industry. Legislators must begin to see electronic cigarettes as a breakthrough technology and leave them on the market as a viable alternative for committed adult smokers.

« Last Edit: December 16, 2009, 09:02:38 PM by Lithium » Logged

Life is not a dress rehearsal.
taz3cat
Secretary
Volunteer
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 2031



View Profile
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2009, 12:42:26 PM »

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/choicevapor/54758-70-liquidation-choicevapor-cease-operations.html

In pertinent part:

Quote
We regret to inform you that ChoiceVapor.com will cease operations on December 31st 2009.

This has been an agonizing decision for us and one we have not come to easily. We recently received a letter from a State Attorney General that demanded a cease of sales. This letter which cites inaccurate statements from the highly contested July FDA press release has tested our resolve and hastened our decision. It is this action, pending FDA litigation and the countless fights still to come that leaves us with an unacceptable amount of uncertainty for the long term success and prosperity of our endeavor. What is the future of the electronic cigarette industry? Your guess is as good as ours. Our sincere hope is that Federal and State governments will one day embrace this industry. Legislators must begin to see electronic cigarettes as a breakthrough technology and leave them on the market as a viable alternative for committed adult smokers.



Julie, that is not good, I don't understand how a AG can demanded they quit selling something that is not illegal.

Logged
JustJulie
Volunteer Coordinator
Volunteer
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 959



View Profile
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2009, 01:06:10 PM »

Quote
Julie, that is not good, I don't understand how a AG can demanded they quit selling something that is not illegal.


Well, we haven't seen the letter, so we don't know for sure what was said and the legal basis for the demand.  I'll be sending a PM to ChoiceVapor and ask if they would be willing to share a copy of the letter, redacted to keep any private information private.
Logged

Life is not a dress rehearsal.
taz3cat
Secretary
Volunteer
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 2031



View Profile
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2009, 02:56:55 PM »

Julie, I would like to see the letter too and know if anyone else got one. There are several other suppliers in IL, I think.
Logged
JustJulie
Volunteer Coordinator
Volunteer
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 959



View Profile
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2009, 10:20:43 AM »

Well, I heard from the vendor, and he's going to check with his attorney, which is a very reasonable and prudent thing to do.

He did, however, say that it wasn't the ILLINOIS Attorney General who contacted him, so I'll need to get Lithium to edit the title of this thread so as not to mislead.  I'll post more information if and when available.  I suspect, however, that we're looking at Connecticut. 

Frightening when the Connecticut AG is busy issuing demands to out of state vendors.
« Last Edit: December 13, 2009, 10:23:01 AM by JustJulie » Logged

Life is not a dress rehearsal.
taz3cat
Secretary
Volunteer
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 2031



View Profile
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2009, 11:11:17 AM »

Well, don't know what is going on, the TECC, USA went belly up and left some people they say high and dry. TECC, UK is a sister company to TW according to Shinning Wit. I think we have some rumor and no real facts that is for sure. I do know there is no TECC, USA web site anymore, just the TECC, UK.
Logged
jj2
Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 22



View Profile
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2009, 06:22:46 PM »

I jumped to the same conclusion and emailed Lisa. Doubt she remember me, but I had to deal with her years back because of a contractor. I hope I got my point across that the e-cig is a good thing.
Logged
SludgeVanDiesel
Member

Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 51


Alien Vape Fiend


View Profile
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2009, 03:31:02 PM »

TECC, UK is a sister company to TW according to Shinning Wit.
It is.

Both TECC (US & UK)  & TW are owed by Jason Cropper
Logged

Better to vape for 1 hour with the wise than drink wine with the foolish cool-smiley-014
http://www.myspace.com/sludgevandiesel
eplanet
Supplier

Offline Offline

Posts: 13



View Profile WWW
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2009, 09:53:01 AM »


He did, however, say that it wasn't the ILLINOIS Attorney General who contacted him, so I'll need to get Lithium to edit the title of this thread so as not to mislead.  I'll post more information if and when available.  I suspect, however, that we're looking at Connecticut. 

Frightening when the Connecticut AG is busy issuing demands to out of state vendors.
yes, edit the title please...
Logged

changing the world one drip at a time...
JustJulie
Volunteer Coordinator
Volunteer
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 959



View Profile
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2009, 07:45:47 AM »


yes, edit the title please...

Ask, and ye shall receive.  Smiley
Logged

Life is not a dress rehearsal.
JustJulie
Volunteer Coordinator
Volunteer
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 959



View Profile
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2010, 10:31:31 AM »

An eloquent letter to Blumenthal from a Connecticut resident posted on VapersForum at http://www.vapersforum.com/showthread.php?p=167522#post167522:

As a result of my original post concerning the scare tactics used to keep certain vendors from shipping to Connecticut, Spikey asked me if I would join a group headed to Hartford to speak with AG Blumenthal. I was not sure I would be able to get away from work on the day they had arranged the audience, so I prepared an open letter outlining my concerns. As it turned out, I was able to make the trip with our fearless leader and another CT vaper. The three of us spent about two hours in the AG's office speaking, primarily, with two Assistant Attorneys General. Blumenthal, in person, attended for about half an hour.

I took the opportunity of presenting the following letter personally:


Quote
To: Attorney General Richard Blumenthal and whomever else it may concern,

If this were an article submitted for publication, it would have the title: "Why what Connecticut does with electronic cigarettes means so much to me." I have been a Connecticut resident since 1953. I attended and received a degree from Wesleyan University (Middletown) in 1957. I did post-graduate work and received degrees from Yale (New Haven) 1957-1962. I raised my family in Milford where I have lived since 1960. I have contributed in many ways to the Connecticut communities as an educator and musician. I feel that the state of Connecticut is on the verge of making a serious mistake concerning my health and the health of hundreds of others like me.

I probably had my first cigarette sixty years ago. At that time, the worst thing anyone said about smoking was that it would stunt your growth. As a six-foot tall high school athlete, this was not much of a threat. Almost every professional ball player endorsed one brand or another. By 1952 I was addicted to nicotine. The dire warnings came along later when it was too late to quit. Goodness knows I tried. Every time I went more than two days without a cigarette, I became irritable and difficult to live with. My wife put up with my smoking because the alternative was unacceptable, but banned me to the den over the garage to keep the house and her clothes from smelling too bad. Recently I had begun to cough incessantly and my doctor said my lungs were "noisy." I was short of breath and he prescribed Spiriva as a daily inhalant.

This past April my wife stuck an article about electronic cigarettes under my nose. The claim was that it would not smell up the place and that it did not contain the tars and carcinogens which were the cause of my emphysema. I did not expect to quit smoking (I'd tried that too many times before) but thought I might be able to cut back with this device. The result was more than I could have hoped for. Within three days I quit coughing. Within a week I knew I was breathing better and quit using the Spiriva. I had my last cigarette in April and have not smoked another since.

Yes, I am still addicted to nicotine which the e-cig supplies. But I am not subjecting my lungs to the by-products of combustion of tobacco which were making me sick. On a recent check-up, my doctor was very pleased with the changes which have taken place.

About two weeks ago I placed an order online for some liquid to vaporize. The vendor sent the following message back: "I'm sorry, but because of Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthal's stance on ecigs (which includes threatening legal action against ecig vendors), we have decided to not ship to that state. I do appreciate the order and would like to process it, but your state's AG would apparently prefer you smoke FDA approved traditional cigarettes, which are known to be deadly."

To my knowledge, there is no law on the books at present prohibiting me from using a personal vaporizer. I don't know of any law which says these are illegal to sell or purchase. If my supply of materials is cut off by a fear campaign based on misinformation and conjecture that these things are not safe, I will go back to smoking cigarettes which I have proof were killing me. I want to live a few more healthy years enjoying my six grandchildren. Please do not ban the electronic cigarettes without proof that they are more dangerous than cigarettes. Because I am convinced that the use of these devices has saved my life.

(Signed with name and address)

Did it do any good? I don't know. But my voice is on record now. Please add your own.
Logged

Life is not a dress rehearsal.
taz3cat
Secretary
Volunteer
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 2031



View Profile
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2010, 10:59:00 AM »

Julie that is a wonderful letter and I am glad that they got to meet with th AG. I hope it does some good.
Logged
Pages: [1] Go Up Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  

Powered by SMF 1.1.11 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines LLC
Leviathan design by Bloc | XHTML | CSS