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« on: November 16, 2009, 09:46:48 AM »

I am putting this in testing because it has a link to lab tests performed on Gamucci e-cigarettes.
Link to lab test:http://www.waverly-tn-townhall.com/Gamucci-Lab-Report.pdf


Government Approved Lab Finds E Cigarettes Are Much Safer Than Tobacco Cigarettes
It seems that the only lab that does not approve of the e cigarette is the U.S. Food And Drug Administration
Published on November 14, 2009

LPD Services, a U.K. based lab that is fully accredited has submitted the results of its findings on the Gamucci line of e-cigarettes. As most have suspected, the lab indicated that the electronic cigarette is much safer than traditional tobacco cigarettes.

http://www.officialwire.com/main.php?action=posted_news&rid=34978&catid=105

 
 
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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2009, 07:56:04 AM »

Dugg the wire service report. BUT....
Am very concerned regarding the findings that PG could be a respiratory irritant. Reading the analysis was unsettling to me....outside of what I have come to believe and feel in myself. I feel my lungs went through a "cleansing" process the first month of vaping. Loose phlegm was expelled in copious amounts and the cough was gone. I have more TVLC (total volume lung capacity) as performed in my cardiologists office and I have no symptoms of "lung irritation." I use PG e-liquid exclusively and have no side effects. Puzzling to say the least. I have never heard PG listed as a lung irritant.....has anyone else? Does anyone have symptoms of this? Curious and curiouser....
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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2009, 09:32:02 AM »

Bonnie, every lab report coming out of the UK say the same thing about PG. I don't' think they have read the research from the 1940's on PG, and our labs always say breathing PG effect are unknown (if you lookup PG), yet it is in some asthma inhaler. I don't understand their statements. either. VG makes my lung feel like they are coated with oil or something.

Since I use only PG and avoid VG, I think that is the reason my atty's last so long now. Just a side note.

PS not reading the 1940's research is not confined to just the UK, the USA labs are not doing any better.
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2009, 02:36:25 PM »

http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/p6928.htm

Here's a fun tidbit:

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When released into the air, this material is expected to be readily degraded by reaction with photochemically produced hydroxyl radicals. When released into the air, this material is expected to have a half-life between 1 and 10 days.
No note as to what it degrades into, but this suggests that at least part of our vapor is actually biodegradable, unlike smoke, which just settles onto surfaces and builds up with repeated exposure (sticky solid particles). Might be something worth investigating.
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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2009, 03:10:13 PM »

Iman, that lab report is interesting, also inhalation of PG is not toxic, We do need to be sure and put our hazmat suit on so we can't drink enought to get a toxic dose.

My doctor, several years ago, gave me a prescription for PG to use as a laxative, after I had surgery. I can tell you it will take more than a person would want to drink. It was almost tasteless, need some Loranns to make it taste good.
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2009, 07:23:21 AM »

Bruce Springsteen should be a dead man with all the PG fog used in his shows for 40 years! How many shows has he done in 40 years?And, his shows use gallons that he and his band inhale on a daily basis....far more than a heavy vaper would. Just a little anecdotal evidence that long term use is most probably not harmful. That is good enough for me. Logic is a long lost art in this world IMO.
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2009, 09:30:19 AM »

Bruce Springsteen should be a dead man with all the PG fog used in his shows for 40 years! How many shows has he done in 40 years?And, his shows use gallons that he and his band inhale on a daily basis....far more than a heavy vaper would. Just a little anecdotal evidence that long term use is most probably not harmful. That is good enough for me. Logic is a long lost art in this world IMO.
Bonnie

Bonnie, logic is in real short supply these days. We need to import some from somewhere.

A lot of the Vegas entertainers should have problems from PG as much as it is use in shows there. Some of the shows runs for years.
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« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2009, 02:06:18 PM »

Hi Guys,

It might interest you to know that this "report" looks very, very familiar. The same firm completed an almost identical exercise for another company... TW, to be precise. Unfortunately, this report has been littered with a number of errors which should have been rectified before it was published. Still, that's life!  wink

As it happens, the proposed TWA-exposure to PG is some 470-odd ppm, which is one of the highest for any chemical used in industry. PG may cause throat irritation in some, but its effects are mild and not a long-term risk to health; unlike something of the nature of Carbon Tetrachloride (a known carcinogen), for example. This is where the internet can be both a blessing and a curse. People on a number of forums have freaked out over diacetyl, but ignorance has remained with respect to the route-causes of the cases of bronchiolitis obliterans reported... and this is despite the information being freely available to those who want to go "digging" for it. In the most notorious incidents brought to the public's attention, the afflicted individuals were exposed to prodigious levels of the compound and safety controls in the workplace were either non-existent or poorly observed. That, alone, makes a huge difference to outcomes... It's the difference between someone walking past a car when the exhaust is running and someone sitting directly in front of its path for extended periods of time and breathing in the whole job lot.

The worst that PG will do is to cause mild throat irritation in some people who are sensitive to it. Like some here, Glycerol exerts an effect on me whilst PG doesn't. Both, in the grand scheme of things, are safe... and a damned-sight safer than cigarettes, air fresheners, air-sprays, insecticide aerosols, und so weiter...

The e-cig bandwagon, thankfully, is slowly gaining momentum... and common sense will eventually prevail.

Ta ta for now

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