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Author Topic: U.K. - Proposal to Include PVs in Smoking Restrictions?  (Read 534 times)
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« on: December 18, 2009, 07:40:50 AM »




http://esmokerdirect.com/blog/proposed-uk-legislation-changes-to-include-electronic-cigarette/

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The Local Authorities Coordinators of Regulatory Services (LACORS), Trading Standards Institute (TSI) and The Chartered Institute of Environmental Health (CIEH) recently sent a formal letter to the Department of Health outlining changes they would like to see made to existing legislations so they includes electronic cigarettes.

One of the primary concerns raised in the document is the complete lack of age restriction on the sale of electronic cigarettes; an issue which should be addressed by the government sooner rather than later.

    “There is no existing legislation to deal with Electronic Cigarettes as age restricted products and thus the product may be legally sold to young persons of any age. Contrast this with thelegislation controlling for example, tobacco products, alcohol, solvents and fireworks all ofwhich are age restricted in order to protect the health and well being of young people.”

A large number of suppliers actively enforce an age restriction of 18 when retailing these products, but there are a few less scrupulous suppliers who are exploiting the lack of legislation.

Another point which the document addresses is the challenge in the enforcement of Smokefree legislation in public places:

    “The inability to easily distinguish between a normal and an e-cigarette leads to confusion and upset amongst the public which can give rise to complaints as they believe that breaches of the legislation are taking place, and they are being subjected to cigarette smoke whilst in a no-smoking area. The use of e-cigarettes in premises where the law prohibits smoking could well encourage people to smoke, either in the mistaken belief that the law does not apply or is not being enforced, or that the individuals concerned will not be noticed and reported. There is also real potential for public order offences being committed where individuals are approached and asked or told to stop and this is challenged.”

After this the organisations go on to comment that they believe that electronic cigarettes should be classified as tobacco products and subject to the relevant legislation.

Found and information posted by Kate (Anon) on VapersForum:  http://www.vapersforum.com/showthread.php?p=159298#post159298
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« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2009, 12:48:35 PM »

I am not surprised thees Governments can't stand not to be in control. They think all the people that are not elected or a chosen official are stupid. Then they want their tax money that is for sure. Actually all the rest is an excuse to tax e-cigarettes at a higher rate.
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« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2009, 02:33:39 PM »

Bugger!
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« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2009, 04:13:57 AM »

Please note that these are NOT elected bodies.  There is no sign of politicians getting involved as yet.  Given an election is coming I'd be surprised if anything happen just yet.  This is "laziness" by these bodies (they obviously haven't talked to ASH UK) - easier to ban e-cigs in the same places that smoking is banned rather than find a way to accomodate people.   It MAY be time to start poking our elected representatives???  (They will be wanting our votes soon...)
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« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2009, 05:48:36 AM »

I think that is important to note, Prof . . . these proposals are recommendations from non-legislative bodies, so it's not like there are any proposals sitting in legislative committees being crafted for voting . . . or at least I hope not. 

At least from the excerpt provided from the blog, it appears that the criticism is about perception and not about safety.  It seems to me that the proper response to such a criticism is that we should educate the public about how vaping is NOT smoking rather than simply ban something that is so promising.
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« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2009, 12:57:00 PM »

Julie, you got that right on educating the public, and the media. We need to get some real media attention that is positive.
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