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Author Topic: Iolite/I-Inhale from Smokejuice.co.uk  (Read 12255 times)
Kate
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« on: January 24, 2009, 06:39:06 PM »

 http://www.smokejuice.co.uk/userimages/procart22.htm

http://www.my-iolite.com/

This device is designed for vaporising herbs but can also be used with eliquid.

It costs £140 and comes with a two year guarantee, except on parts expected to be replaced during cleaning and maintenance. My understanding is that would include mouthpieces and mesh if required.

The device is powered with butane gas which is pretty cheap in the UK, 200ml cost me £1.25. I'm not sure yet but I think that could last a long time. I'll keep track of how much maintenance costs and post updates.

This thing is surprisingly light and a nice shape for fidgeting with in your hand, it has rounded corners and doesn't feel clunky or chunky to me in the way an epipe did. The mouthpiece is round, not what I'm used to anymore, I'd like the option of a tapered one.

It's pretty easy to fill, just like filling a lighter and it heats up quickly. The first tank full lasted me more than 90 minutes which seems a lot, I'll monitor how long it lasts more carefully and report any changes.

It looks ok, not stunning, not posh but functional and even, in my opinion, fairly respectable. It's (black) plastic with a white and silver bubble design either side. It would seem more heavy duty if it was made of metal but 'heavy' being the operative word, the trade off would be weight. Also, the plastic doesn't conduct the heat as much as metal would, it would burn hands. There is a radiator type pattern up one side and at first it can feel too hot and uncomfortable to hold. I quickly got used to holding it in a way that it doesn't bother me. It hisses on and off when it's heating, to me it sounds like a quiet steam iron, no problem but some might not like it.

I wouldn't mind using one of these in a pub ... but that's me. It certainly gets away from the cigarette look, vaping with this won't be mistaken for smoking. It might be mistaken for illicit drug use but I say suck it and see what happens. I'm not sure most people are used to these devices in any context, herb vapers wouldn't tend to use them in public I suspect.

So how does it do for vapour? Well, I fired it up and dripped a couple of drops, the flavour and kick were intense. That died down after a minute or so, the flavourings must have vaporised immediately, too quickly really because the flavour became mild and then non existent within another couple of minutes. Vapour lasted for three and a half to seven minutes with two drops of commercial eliquid. Freesmoke coconut lasted three and a half minutes, Cash a Cola lasted four and a half minutes and Janty virginia lasted seven minutes. Pure glycerine works well but I'll be looking for a formula that keeps flavour for longer. The great thing about this device is that there is no flimsy atomiser to mollycoddle, just chuck anything in and residue can be wiped out easily.

I'm going to think about using filler in the heating chamber to see if it alters the speed of vaporisation of flavours and propylene glycol.

This device isn't for everyone, the always on state is great but the draw is like breathing, if you like some resistance you might not like that. It's not the best with commercial eliquid either, I think it has a lot of potential if a good formula can be found but it is an enthusiasts device for now, not one for someone looking for ease and simplicity.

Vaping habits might have to change with this. It heats in seconds and can be on for a while but it might prove to be more like the ritual of getting a cig and smoking it for a few minutes than an always available, never ending vaping session.

That is my only experience so far, I only got it today but wanted to share initial impressions. It might be different when it has been broken in. I think there is a lot of potential here but will have to mess about a bit to get a formula that suits and get used to the easy draw or do something about that. There's nothing else about it that I can see being a problem. I'll update this when I have something else to say.










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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2009, 07:12:09 PM »

Thanks for the initial review Kate.  Definitely looks very interesting. Please keep us updated if you come up with any new tricks to retain a longer, sustained liquid retention technique.  I'm surprised at how small the device actually is compared to the other e-cig devices that are pictured next to it.. (which is a plus in my book). Nice Pics....thanks!  Out of curiosity (stupid question)...any concern regarding the inhalation of gas from the converter??  That would definitely scare the heck out of me!!
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2009, 07:56:50 PM »

Hi Sendit, I'll be sure to update you as soon as I have tested it a bit more.

I've heard that the exhaust gases are water vapour and carbon dioxide but I'm not sure if that's reliable information.  I sniffed the side of the device while it was heating and couldn't smell anything.  Hopefully if anyone reads this who knows anything about it they'll chip in.
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2009, 07:35:36 AM »

Out here in Portland people seem to be oddly comfortable Using “Herbal” devices and they do get nabbed now and then by the authorities. I would love to see this device in a more mundane looking case. I wouldn't mind having it around for home and camping though.

However, I am interested how the pub thing goes. Please keep us posted.

I think this yahoo answer might help answer your question about exhaust. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080326195521AAPb5yj

Oh and how do you go about loading it with E-Fluid?
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2009, 07:56:48 AM »

Great link, thanks Devon - "CO2 & H2O
This is the case for any combustion reaction (assuming 100% efficiency, however carbon monoxide and other gases are possible products too.)"

CO2 is carbon dioxide I think, that's what we breathe out during natural respiration.

H2O is water.

Carbon monoxide is found in vehicle emissions so we get a fair bit of that anyway although it's not good.

The section of the casing that holds the mouthpiece lifts off and the eliquid just drips right into a heated chamber.  Slot the mouthpiece back on and you're good to go.


The main body of the device with the mouthpiece chamber removed.


This is a view of the heating chamber.  I can't see any maintenance needs while using eliquid.  Maybe a wipe with a cloth now and then. This one is messy because it's been used with a mix of molasses and eliquid (which is pretty yummy).


I haven't quite got used to filling the tank with butane yet (I have never been good with filling lighters).  It seems to fill in a matter of seconds but I'll need to get a bit more practice to confirm.
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2009, 11:41:17 AM »

Thats pretty cool Kate!  I am interested in your oppinion of its effectiveness, and what you are vaporizing in the device.  Just liquids? 

CO2 is carbon dioxide.  It is harmless.

CO is carbon monoxide, wich is not harmless.  It is something that we all inhaled regularly, when we smoked analogs.  I would only consider it dangerous in high concentrations or in non ventilated areas.
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2009, 11:51:41 AM »

I'm just using eliquid for now Biscuit, I want to see if it will be a satisfactory alternative to the devices we're used to.  It can also be used to vaporise herbs so if eliquid gets banned I could use it with tobacco to get my nicotine fix without combustion still.

It isn't ready for anyone but enthusiasts yet.  Eliquid doesn't vaporise evenly - flavours disappear quickly leaving just bland vapour.

I'm going to be trying a few things to see if I can get it to work well.  I'll be stuffing the heating chamber with some kind of filler and am going to try my own home brew eliquid.

It might take me a little time but I'll come back and update this thread when I've used the device a bit more.
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2009, 07:31:08 PM »

Kate or anyone else that may have purchased the I-inhale...has anyone tried the Soex Herbal Shisha (non-tobacco) in it yet?  I know that it's fairly popular with Hookah smokers and may be a great alternative mixed with e-liquid. 

If anyone has vaped this..please let me know how it is.  May just be the deciding factor in picking up an i-inhale for myself  Wink  Cheers!
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2009, 07:38:07 PM »

I haven't tried anything other than eliquid yet but Tim from Smokejuice has tried some shisha tobacco.  He talked about it here if you want to see what he said - http://www.e-cigtest.com/showthread.php?t=535
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2009, 08:02:18 PM »

Thanks Kate,
Good Info on the Herbs in the I-inhale.  Just concerned that may lead me back to the dreaded tobacco (no!!)  I've been analog-free for almost 90 days with the e-cigs and don't want to go back. Just want to find a better alternative to "fried" atomizers and batteries.  I'll definitely keep an eye on the progress that you all have made with the e-liquid in the i-inhale.  I appreciate your feedback.  How is the vapor in the i-inhale if you add more than 2-3 drops of liquid?  Does it last for more than a couple of minutes??  Thanks!!
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« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2009, 05:39:24 AM »

It's the poor reliability of current devices that I'm hoping to get away from too.  If we can get a good running temperature and eliquid formula I think the I-inhale might be an answer.

One of the good things is that it's a dual purpose device so if eliquid is banned where you live then you could still get vapour from tobacco with it.  Apparently it's nowhere near as deadly as burning it.

Vapour actually can last for a long time, 3.5-7 minutes from two drops depending on brand.  I usually get about five minutes from two drops in my Kissbox.

I put some pure glycerine in the iinhale but forgot to time it.  It seemed to last for ages though.

What I think is the main problem to solve at the moment is that different ingredients are vaporising at different rates.  Flavours vaporise immediately and there is none left after a minute or so.
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« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2009, 07:07:46 PM »

Coolness.

Thanks for the review.  I was about to order a screwdriver from Trog when I stumbled across the I-inhale.  Disappointment...$249 USD.  Yet since it uses no parts like the S/D, it looks like I have some math to figure. 

Perhaps I'm holding out for something that doesn't exist, for nothing is perfect.  I just need to do some more research into what may work best for me. 

Again, please keep us posted on your success with this device.  I will appeciate all your input.

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« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2009, 09:24:45 PM »

What I think is the main problem to solve at the moment is that different ingredients are vaporising at different rates.  Flavours vaporise immediately and there is none left after a minute or so.

Kate there are flavours for high temperatures, this flavours are used for repostery it is not the same a flavour for make beverage than one for candies or one for repostery, maybe you can search for some source of high temperature resistant flavours.
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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2009, 10:30:23 PM »

best be careful some flavors may become toxic a high temps. There is some research that indicated that some flavor and they are not sure on some that may be toxic to breath even if they are eatable. The CDC and OSHA are concerned.
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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2009, 11:08:14 PM »

best be careful some flavors may become toxic a high temps. There is some research that indicated that some flavor and they are not sure on some that may be toxic to breath even if they are eatable. The CDC and OSHA are concerned.

How high temps taz3cat? this device runs at a constant 190C / 374F temperature, I believe our atomizers run hotter.
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